Violence in Silence

Sometimes politics and war in Illyria become the subjects of furious rants on the Illyriad Forum and in Global Chat. But often major events pass unnoticed. Violence perpetrated in silence is often more significant and, interestingly, is often handled with more intelligence and restraint.

So, last week a couple of large-ish players dropped out of Curse of Wolves, and joined another alliance. Curse saw this as dangerous treason, as this meant that a rival now had a strong presence in the heart of Wolves territory. So Wolves decided to siege the apostates, whose new alliance jumped to their defense.

In the last couple of days over 50,000 Wolves troops have been killed as their siege-camps have been destroyed – but more siege camps have sprung up.

Given the strength of Curse, the sieging of established players, etc., this should be big news. But the forums and GC have been blissfully quiet on the subject. And on Curses’ Alliance Diplomacy page there is no declaration of War or hint that there is an ongoing campaign.

This bodes well for an intelligent, diplomatic resolution. Forum rants usually stir up trouble, rather than settling quarrels, so the silence may well make it easier for everyone to reach an agreement on this.

The lesson for those not involved, is that the Forums, Global Chat, and Alliances’ Diplomacy pages, cannot be trusted to reflect current politics in Illyria. Much of what happens in the land remains hidden.


About Kurdruk

Kurdruk is a fictitious character. Specifically, he is a fictitious Orc. Orcs are, of course, a fictitious race. And so, being a fictitious member of a fictitious race, it is unsurprising that Kurdruk lives in a fictitious land - Illyria. So it is no surprise that Kurdruk's great wisdom relates to life in the realm of Illyria - in other words, in Illyriad.
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8 Responses to Violence in Silence

  1. ScottFitz says:

    Too bad you do not know the full story here Kurduk!

    • Kurdruk says:

      I don’t pretend to know the full story. Typically in Illyriad, no-one knows the full story, and those who claim to have the One True Understanding are a menace to everyone else, as their opinions become entrenched.

      No doubt Spirit/roller has made himself unpopular in the past – and I’m sure some people will be happy to beat that drum. No doubt other Alliances have been sticking their oars in to stir things up – and it would be possible to gossip about that. No doubt the Valar are less than fluffy – and I’m sure I could speculate about whether or not they* really are pantomime villains.

      But Forum-style mud-slinging isn’t interesting – the Forum already exists for that. What’s interesting is that a major campaign, for days, attracted no real comment on the public spaces, and might, for that, be more easily resolved.

      * Full disclosure: Valar are Kurdruk’s alliance.

  2. ScottFitz says:

    The Valar are less than Fluffy? Fluffy will be amazed to hear that!

    (I amend my original comment to “Too bad you do not know more of the story”)

    • Kurdruk says:

      > Fluffy will be amazed to hear that!


      > “Too bad you do not know more of the story”

      And no doubt it’s a story with many a twist and turn, going back for a year or more.

      But I’m trying not to get into specifics of disagreements on the blog – I’d rather talk in generalities, as hopefully those will remain helpful for readers long after specific disputes have been forgotten.

  3. Rill says:

    I was hoping that by not talking about it, we would indeed increase the possibility of a diplomatic solution. Now it seems we are talking about it.

    And leave Fluffy out of this! He’s got enough problems being attacked by Mr Smiley!

  4. StJude says:

    This is a well written and insightful post, to someone like me who is extremely interested in the metagame, I enjoy observations like this. For some, posting on the forums is a waste of time, as is talking in GC. In game armies can do a much better job of communicating than words can.

    For others, the forums and GC offer a different type of challenge or cater to another type of player.

    Oftentimes, if a post is being made on the forums, the intent can be NOT to find a diplomatic solution, but rather stir the pot and goad your opponent into doing something stupid.
    As a rather new player, I get the sense that the original community preferred the role playing aspect of seeking a diplomatic solution, whereas now, there is a faction rising who are more aggressive.

  5. Hora says:

    Playing Illyriad for over a year now, I have seen some changes in the forum posts.
    In the time when I started, the forum was mostly informative, with many questions to and answers from the devs…well and occasional stirring up in the Bitter sea and very much nonsense in the Caravanserai. All in all it was fun to read.
    But about half an year ago, the trolls started to take over the forum. Many posts just were made to insult people, so people answered with insults and so on. Many times I stopped reading the forum, angry about such rubbish in there.
    It’s just sad to see a forum deteriorate with nothing to do against 😦

  6. Hora says:

    Well, OK, to paint my picture a bit less negative… I think I can see a positive trend towards more interesting post again, especially those written by motivated new players joining Illyriad recently 😀

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